The Interview Experience by James F. , Attleboro,
MA
The Interview Experience by Kate S. , Swarthmore,
PA
From what I've read and seen here at Skywalker Ranch, it's
obvious you're very interested in history. What exactly sparked your
interest?I've always been interested in where we come from, who we are
and what's happened; obviously history has some great stories.
When I was eight
or nine there was a series of books called Landmark Books. I started reading them, and I ended up
over the next four or five years with a whole collection - I've got tons of them. It was from
reading these history books that I became very interested in history - and I never
stopped.
Most children live in a world of vivid
fantasy which they seem to lose as they grow up. What or who allowed you to preserve
your imagination?Well, that I don't know.
I think
imagination is something you're born with; I think it's more of a biological thing than anything
else; you either have it or you don't.
Children obviously go through a lot of
intense reordering of their brains as they go through puberty, and I think in a lot of cases they
probably lose a lot of their ability to have a fantasy life. Or it matures. But I think there's an
actual biological reason for the
whole thing.
Someone once said that whatever happens
in the first 18 years of your life, that's what you'll be writing about for the rest of it. Do you
agree with this?Your childhood has a huge impact on your life and what
you think about, and what you care about, and your psychological outlook, and your
motivations.
So, I would say probably that it's more your psychological outlook
than anything else.
Who do you think should be the
real role models for teens today?Well, I don't know; obviously there
are a lot of historical role models I think people can have.
And the problem today
with the media is that they don't spend much time building up heroes. They spend most of their time
tearing down heroes so there are not many people left anyone can look up to and say, "This
is who I aspire to be. "
What were you like
as a teenager, and do you feel the adolescent experience your children are going through now has
changed a lot since your time?Well, I was probably avery difficult
teenager; I didn't realize it until I became an adult.
So far my kids are
reasonably easygoing - they are demanding and they're definitely teenagers. One of them just
finished being a teenager, and one is about to start.
I survived the first one,
and I hope I'll survive the second, and then the third one's a boy, so I have no idea what that will
be like.
Girls have their own difficulties and emotional challenges, but boys are
generally more apt to get in trouble because they're more adventurous. I guess one way to put it is
they're more willing to take stupid risks.
I think women are smarter and they
don't do things like that - they're just kind of emotional - and it all comes out as a
teenager.
This will all be very clear to you both in about 20
years.
What do you think are some of the greatest
challenges facing teens today, and what can they do to overcome
them?Well, I think the hardest challenge you'll face is to figure out
what you want to do with your life.
And it's interesting, because society has not
built in an adequate system to deal with that, and it is the key decision. We have let people float
and land and stick to something. Most young people don't get any exposure to the kinds of
opportunities that are out there. I think the one thing young people can do is travel as much
possible, have as many experiences as they can and associate with many professionals in various
fields.
As they work they get a sense of what kinds of jobs and opportunities are
out there, which are endless. Most kids have a very, very narrow scope of what they think
is available.
When they go to college opportunities grow a little bit, but the
endless variety of kinds of work you can do and careers you can have is amazing, and it's important
you find something you really enjoy doing.
What kind
of advice would you give to a parent whose kid is very adventurous and on the wild side, and
they're learning from different experiences?Well, all parents
are concerned about the health and safety of their children, that's the primary
thing.
I think ultimately, as a parent, my advice to teens would be to listen to
your parents, hope that they will listen to you, and if they don't, tell them they need to listen to
you. Don't be shy about it.
At the same time, realize that for the most
part, parents only want you to be safe and self-sufficient, and so they have your best interest at
heart. They may not express it well, but if they say something is really dangerous, take that into
account and think about it, because sometimes their experience is
worth something.
People devote their lives to
reading, analyzing and explaining Shakespeare; some of what they come up with must have him spinning
or laughing in his grave. You're kind of in the same position - people like to interpret your
films.
What's it like to have your work so much a part of the public
consciousness? What is the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard someone take from
the"Star Wars" movies?There are a lot of
ridiculous things that people read into the "Star Wars" films that really aren't
there, and it has more to do with the viewer, I think, than anything else.
It's
an interesting perspective that I've come to because I've created something that people analyze and
talk about and speculate on and assume, "He means this or he
means that. "
And I can see that people do it with all literary works, all
film, all the arts, really. There is an academic world of analysis that sort of thinks about
thinking and then wonders if they should be thinking about thinking and debate about whether
thinking is something more than you're thinking about.
And it's the same thing
with art. Art is something you experience. Trying to analyze what a person is doing is, for the most
part, not a really useful exercise. You have to have a one-on-one experience with art, and whatever
that is, is okay.
People have taken away very silly and crazy things, but in the
end it's okay if that's what they see; it's more a reflection of their own personality than the film
itself.
What is the most challenging part about
being a parent to a teenager? Are there any specific challenges you face having adopted
children?No, I don't think there's any difference at all between
adopted children and children who are with their birth parents; kids are
kids.
And I think the biggest challenge a parent has with teenagers is just
learning to put up with them; teenagers are very
difficult.
What have you learned from your kids that
you think has made you a better person? What do you want to pass on to them - traits or knowledge -
that you think will make them better people?Well, I think
children teach the most important thing of all - compassion. Compassion really is the secret to
happiness and the secret to a good life, and is a hard thing to learn.
It's hard
to learn not to think about yourself and to think about somebody else; but when you have a little
baby it becomes pretty easy, if you're open to it. Any parent who is reasonably normal and open to
these sorts of things really does learn compassion and caring about another person through having
kids, and putting that person first.
And if children do their job well, then the
parent will learn not only how to take care of kids and how to love people other than themselves, but
will then move on to learn to love other people.
Some people are born with these
traits, most have to learn them. And it's the child's job to teach those to
the grown-ups.
Which of your films is your favorite?
What is your all-time favorite movie and why?My own films? It's hard
to pick a favorite because they're like children; I care about each one, I have an emotional
involvement with each. I take years and years of hard work to create one. So, I love all my movies,
and it's hard to pick one.
When it comes to outside movies, I love all kinds. I
love movies; I got into this very late, I was 20 years old before I even paid any attention to
movies.
But I love "Dr. Strangelove, ""Citizen
Kane, " "Seven Samurai, " "Hard Day's Night" - an endless
list of movies I could name.
Is there a reason
why?Well, they're very good movies, they're very emotional movies;
they have things to teach and at the same time they're very
moving.
You probably knew this was coming: who is your
favorite Star Wars character, and why?
You create these characters and you love
them all, they're like children, so to speak.
Do you identify with any
of them?I don't know, one could say that I identified with Luke
Skywalker because he was the character whose point of view I was writing
from.
So, I would say that's probably the character I identify with
the most.
In "Star Wars, "
technology seems somewhat sinister and it's always transcended by the power of an individual; what do
you see as the positives and negatives of technology today?Well, in
the films I've actually tried to paint technology in both lights, so it's reasonably helpful and at
the same time can be misused.
It really has more to do with the people behind
the technology than the technology itself.
You know, we have the Droids which are
warm, fuzzy, friendly types, and then we have things like the Death Stars which are out to destroy
the universe.
My feeling has always been that technology can either be a friend
or a foe;it really depends on you.
And that theme
kind of carries over to "THX"; is that really how you see
the future?Well, that was actually how I saw 1970; it was more
a metaphor for the way we were living at that time with people trapped in their own cages that they
create for themselves, trapped in a world where emotions are difficult to come by,
illegal.
And I think the world has taken a strange twist from there, but I still
think it's valid in terms of the modern world we live
in.
Kind of a universal
thing?Very cocoon-like and
very controlled.
You've described yourself as a 19th
century person; what exactly does this mean?I think that means
that ultimately I'm romantic, I'm not a techie; this [pointing around his office] is me. You don't
see steel chairs and fancy gadgets everywhere because I'm much more into people and
ideas.
If society only works on faith like you say
it does, what do you think is holding our society together today?Well,
the faith that holds our society together is faith in the system; it's faith in a lot of things. It's
faith in the Constitution, faith in the government, faith in the President, faith in Congress, faith
in your local police officer, faith in the institutions and that they're doing the right thing. Once
you lose that, the society falls apart, because people don't believe in it any
more.
And it's the glue that holds this society together, or anything,
really.
What is your opinion on all the different
religions out there?Well, I think the example I've used, if you
believe there's one God, then all religions have to lead to the same
place.
What advice can you give a young person who
wants to be a filmmaker or a writer?Well, I would say you have to be
persistent first of all, because it's a very hard thing to get into, and it's very hard to make it
because the odds are against you.
So, you have to really love it; kids who get
into it because they think they're going to make a lot of money or be famous or tell a lot of people
what to do all the time will never make it.
But if you're obsessed with film and
you love to tell stories and you love working in that medium, then that will give you the strength
to be persistent and make it happen.
What has been
the greatest disappointment you've had to deal with in your life?I
don't know; I would say that my marriage failed. That's probably the biggest disappointment in my
life.
Did you have a favorite book as a teenager?
What books would you recommend for teens today?AsI mentioned, I liked
the Landmark history books, and I read a lot of those; I read Treasure Island, that was a favorite,
Mutiny on the Bounty I liked. It's funny, a lot of the books I liked are 18th and 19thcentury
seafaring novels.
Is there anything you wished you
had studied, or paid more attention to, or read more about when you were a
teenager?Well, I wish that I had enjoyed school more; I was much more
interested in the social sciences than mathematics and the language arts, so I wish I had been
exposed to more humanities and more history, more psychology and more
anthropology.
How much attention do you pay to both
the positive and negative opinions of the public on your work?I don't
read reviews or what people think very much, because I've got to make my movies the way I see them
and want them to be. People can take them for whatever they are. They're going to like them or not,
that's their privilege.
But I can't really make my movies for all the influences
that the people around me, for better or worse, want; I can't make the movies to make money, I
just make the movies to make them good and if they make money, fine.
I can't make
them to make toys; if they find something they can make a toy out of in the movie, fine; I can't
make them to be entertaining in the way that certain critics like them to be
entertaining.
"Star Wars, " especially, has been created in a
very particular style, and I've tried to be faithful to that style; if somebody doesn't like
that style, it's fine.
It's funny that the one thing I did hear about the last
film was that they discovered it was a film for young people. That was a big complaint,
"Why did he make a children's film?"I said they've all been that way; I don't
know if they ever saw the other ones, but they've been that way forever.
But
everybody grew up and they thought they were going to see "Terminator 5, " but I'm
not making that kind of movie.
Is there anything
else we should have asked you that we have not already covered, or anything you want to ask
us?'What can you tell me about the new"Star Wars"?'
That's the question most reporters start with.
And I would say, I can't tell
you anything.
I want to ask why you think it's so
important for people in a society to have something to believe
in?Well, you have to have something to aspire to, to guide you, that
gives you a context in which to live your life.
That's why religions were created,
that's why the secular world was created.
It sets up rules and aspirations and
ways of living that you have to have.
If you don't have that, and it's not
created artificially, nature will create it for you; but since we have minds and we can think, we're
constantly curious and willing to figure things out and create new paradigms in which we live to try
to improve on, that's the nature of the human beast, which is great because we do have the ability
to make things better and see where we're doing things wrong and hopefully learn from that and try to
improve it.
Are there any future projects that you
hope to dive into that are unlike anything you've ever done
before?Well, as soon as I finish these films - I have one more to do
after the one I'm working on now which will be done in 2005. Then I've got a lot of projects I want
to do that are very different from the "Star Wars" films that I've been sort of
saving up for a long time.
Some of them are history based; I'm very interested in
history and I'm very interested in doing some historical pieces.