I think that even if you are not christian,you will make it in heaven! How do we know if what the bible says is true? We don't really have a reliable source for that. And just because you are not a follower does not? mean you are not his children.If God truly created us equally, in some way, why would there need to be a reason for going to hell or to heaven? In god's eyes we are his children,and nothing can change that.You shouldn't always trust something you read. I mean how do we know that they are hiding the truth from us with this bible?? How do we know it's not all made up?
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Maybe what you mean by God valueing men over women is his rules. God says that Men should have authority over women. But that doesn't mean that men are better. If you look around you, even at people who aren't christians, you'll see that generally the people who follow the bible's advice are the most successful. Maybe you don't beleive the bible is true, but it does have good advice.
ZeeBYoungI personally don't see how those two are any different.
Well... just because it's okay for someone to tell another what to do doesn't mean they are better... A teacher has authority over students... but that doesn't mean that she is better than them...
WishfulDoerPersonally I find that people who follow the country's -reasonable- laws and make an effort to be successful are successful, but whatever you say. And men have no right to have authority over women whatsoever.
I understand what your saying, but the difference is teachers have licensed authority, not to mention teachers (for the most part) are older than their students, and we should repsect our elders. But saying men have authority over women in general is still saying women need to be told what to do, because apparently we're inferior...
Oh, nono, I wasn't referring to the comment above mine, I was commenting on the original comment by yoitsme. But yes, I agree with you.
ZeeBYoung...... you know you are stilll basically soounding really sextist
JesusFreak10101Ok that is sooooo not true!! If you would actually read the bible you would know that isn't true!! God never told us to beat people or that men are better than women! He loves us all the same, he didn't go around preaching to people to hate eachother! You are the one who decides to hate or to love someone! And it was the bad guys I guess you could call them that did the beating and killing of people and valued men over women not God!
Petrichor1994Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
I like that you are telling your opinion. But I beleive that God is Holy. Holiness and sin can not mix. So someone who has not repented and been cleansed by Jesus can not go to heaven.
LoudDreamerI belive in something called a "baptisim of desire." someone who has no knowlage of Christ but desires to live a life of goodness according to the natural laws written in our hearts, and holds to this desire till their death can be saved because they, inadvertantly, desired Christ. Which is the only thing God asks of people who, through no fault of their own, don't know any better.
Interesting topic. But I believe the base assertion is a bit faulty. My belief on the matter is that God is the personification of goodness and perfection. And the place he dwells (heaven) reflects that position of perfection. There is no room for the tainting of sin in God's presence. It's undeniable that we have all done things wrong (sinned) on some level or another. It doesn't matter what degree of wickedness we perform, it still breaks our track record so we are no longer perfect. And ou... (more »)
Spot on. Who God is, is exactly the point. A.W. Tozer once said, "What we believe about God is the most important thing about us." If we believe in a good God (as all those do who would dare believe in heaven), then we believe in a standard for entering heaven, where God dwells. This standard, of course, is unattainable. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and no one comes to the Father (or sees the pearly gates) except through Him.
Maybe the bible was like the lord of the rings. it could be that the bible was simply a book written by a bored guy to entertain his friends and became popular then over the years misunderstood. Also even if the christian bible is wrong there are still other older faithes to believe in.
Try actually looking at the evidence for the bible and christianity though. Countless numbers of prophecies from the Old Testament are fufilled in the New Testament. It has been proven that the Old testament was indeed written long before the New Testament. So how would someone have known exactly what would happen? All of the Historical events and cultures match up with what we know of History today. Also, there are many scientific laws that are stated in the bible long before they were discover... (more »)
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